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    Monday, February 26, 2007

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    I particularly appreciate the part where if you're not all Happy! and Excited! all the time when LDH is around then the marriage is doomed. I feel like that on vacation. Here we are! Together! No responsibilities! Why are we arguing about where to go to lunch?
    You & LDH seem to have this LD thing happening for the foreseeable future? Is that the biggest drag of all?

    NK, I love hearing your take on the LD thing, since I've done it/am doing it, though on a more temporary basis. And WORD to most of what you say.

    Have you ever thought of retiring from your institution and going out to join him? You certainly could pick up some classes in his city or area. You could work on your publications. Eventually you BOTH could work on a move where you could BOTH find something. We just hired someone who had a 2-yr gap on their academic record and they are working out beautifully. This is a tough situation, I've been there myself.

    A lot of this resonates with me, especially with the money and "yours and mine" issues. The money issue really sucks right now, since my car's transmission just went kaput without being paid off...and my husband and family are on the other side of the country! Otherwise we'd just make do with one car for awhile.

    On another note, I just got back from a visit with LDH (aka home, I guess) and it is hard to get myself working again. Even though I had plenty to do (and brought it with me!), I felt like I was on vacation. I'm finding it difficult to switch between alone-at-school-hard-working-mode and husband-visiting-yay! modes.

    Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this. As my live-in H and I wait to hear about job prospects elsewhere- we may have decisions to make in the near future.

    I will be linking over here in reference to a recent post of mine.

    Thanks again.

    This is a nice honest reflection on LDRs. I totally agree that it's hard not to get set in your ways and figure out how to fit your partner into your life when it only happens for a short period of time.

    The other thing that hit home for me, a fellow introvert, was the mixed feelings on being alone again. I think it's perfectly normal to feel at some level glad to have your time completely under your control and to be able to stop, relax, and get much needed down time at the same time that you deeply miss your partner and wish s/he were there. Nik's comparison to vacation time seems dead on.

    On thing I will say for LDRs, the successful ones at least, is that they encourage (require even) strong communication. When all you have for most of the time is phone and email, you realize you have to just tell your partner things instead of hoping they will pick up subtle body language clues. You quickly learn to just say what you mean.

    Thanks for your post -- I'm thinking about one of my own sooner or later.

    It is hard to have two households, it seems like the grocery shopping, laundry etc. is doubled and it seems like the travel money is always an issue -- who pays, how often etc.

    In my LDR, it seems like I've become the one who folds the laundry. He lives where there is a washing machine, he'll wash the laundry and then wait for me to come down and fold it and put it away.

    I'm finding my clothes migrating north, so this week when he drives home, I'll send a bunch of clothes back with him. I'm not sure how the clothes sneak back north, but they've done it and I'm out of stuff to wear when I'm in his state.... sigh.

    Thanks, NK, for this great post - I like the fact that you're so honest about the fact that it generally sucks but also that it's not the end of the frickin' world! It seems like when I tell people that I got a job elsewhere but that the Dutchman has a job here everyone gets wide-eyed like rubber-neckers at a highway car wreck and goes, "Oh God! That's awful!! What are you going to *doooooo*???" Well, what do you think we're going to do? Try to make it work! Try not to do it for too long and slog through it until then!

    But thanks for your practical points - I think the virtual date idea is great. Also, the not going more than 6 weeks at the outside without seeing each other is a good rule of thumb.

    Thanks again! I'm sure as the time draws near this summer I'll be posting about it too!

    Upon further reflection, it seems like LDRs need to have a high level of trust about a variety of issues -- clearly, it would be a bad idea to have a LDR if you worry about infidelity. You also have to have high levels of trust in terms of money as well as addictive behaviors.

    Being in a LDR leaves time to be lonely and bored -- wishing you were elsewhere -- taking comfort in either spending, gamboling, alcohol etc seems pretty tempting.

    They do suck. Don't know if this has happened to you, but I've noticed that, because LDW and I see each other so rarely (although we're going to manage 19 days in three months -- but then it will be about 4 months till we see each other again), when there is an issue that needs dealing with, I (maybe both of us?) tend to avoid it because I don't want to spoil our precious time together in a discussion that might lead to an actual fight, etc.

    nik - yes, for the foreseeable future, LDH and I are going to be in different places. We have a variety of fairly vague plans/strategies/hopes etc., but we don't have a specific ending point to this right now. And I totally agree with your vacation metaphor - so true!

    Loyal reader, I love the idea of retirement. :-) But yes, I do think of leaving here and going out to join him, especially since the market for me in his town is probably better than the market for him in my town, especially if I'm willing to move outside a faculty role (which I think I could be). This is all part of the vague plans we're working on. But that's not going to happen right away - there are a variety of things that need to get resolved first. But yes, you're right, it definitely can work that way.

    Marie - YES. The whole mode-switching thing IS very difficult!

    Addy N. - good luck!

    Sheepish - yes, I totally agree about communication (I meant to say something about that and completely forgot). You're so right - you can't just hope the other person will figure something out, you have to SAY it.

    And PhilosopherP, yes, trust is a big thing. Thankfully that's never been an issue for LDH and me, but if it were, I think the LDR would be a much greater strain. I'm also really struck by your point about taking solace in something (shopping, gambling, etc.). Thankfully gambling and drinking hold no appeal, but I've definitely done the shopping thing. (And it's probably not a coincidence that I started blogging when we started living apart again!)

    ADM - yup, I know what you mean about that. Definitely.

    Nice blog out there ...keep it up...

    Ive been in a long distance relationship on line for over a year now. We took all the precautionary steps (talked for 6 months first via phone and web cam) before flying to see eachother. We fly every 6-8 weeks now. We have the fundements of an incredible marriage. Great conversation, communication, and respect for eachother which helps considerably. Unfortunatly we are on opposite sides of the country me in school him with a business, and are unable to relocate for about 1-2 years. Our only issue is trust. Even when we think we handle situations accordly there always seems to be room for capability to have made better decisions. It seems to consistanly "not good enough". I know distance and frustration feeds this but its aggrivating. I think once we are together things will be more solid.....but any tips on making it that far?

    Like any relationship, long distance relationships require effort for them to succeed. Where your relationship differs from a normal relationship, is the fact that you have time to live for yourself. How many couples do you know of, who complain that they never have time for themselves. As with any sort of relationship, there are undoubtedly times where frustrations start creeping in. The quality time that you spend together, probably on the end of a telephone line can quickly end up in mind games, destroying the small amount of time you do get to be close together. If the wonders do start creeping up on you, remember that your relationship is built on trust, love and respect.

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